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	<title>Comments on: Was iPhone More Profitable Than Nokia Handsets Last Quarter? &#8212; Blog vs. Blog!</title>
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		<title>By: dev</title>
		<link>http://www.tipb.com/2009/11/16/iphone-profitable-nokia-handsets-quarter-blog-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-94737</link>
		<dc:creator>dev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I get it perfectly.  I stated a position, as did other.  You started out called names, and never stopped.  If you want to argue any specific points in my post #2, or in the linked articles, we can start over and have a pleasant discussion.  You may learn something.  Heck, I may learn something.  I don&#039;t mind being proven wrong, as long as there is some fun back-and-forth leading up to it.  I even directly restated the relevant points in post #22 for you.  If you are up for it, so am I.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If, however, you prefer to just call names, make comments, and yes, make ad hominem attacks (you could look it up too, you know) just to shout down people with different views, well, that is not as much fun for anybody, but I suppose I have enough time to waste responding to you, if it will curb this sort of childishness in other threads.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get it perfectly.  I stated a position, as did other.  You started out called names, and never stopped.  If you want to argue any specific points in my post #2, or in the linked articles, we can start over and have a pleasant discussion.  You may learn something.  Heck, I may learn something.  I don&#8217;t mind being proven wrong, as long as there is some fun back-and-forth leading up to it.  I even directly restated the relevant points in post #22 for you.  If you are up for it, so am I.</p>

<p>If, however, you prefer to just call names, make comments, and yes, make ad hominem attacks (you could look it up too, you know) just to shout down people with different views, well, that is not as much fun for anybody, but I suppose I have enough time to waste responding to you, if it will curb this sort of childishness in other threads.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mystic</title>
		<link>http://www.tipb.com/2009/11/16/iphone-profitable-nokia-handsets-quarter-blog-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-94671</link>
		<dc:creator>mystic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You still don&#039;t get it, do you Dev?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You still don&#8217;t get it, do you Dev?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kaiks</title>
		<link>http://www.tipb.com/2009/11/16/iphone-profitable-nokia-handsets-quarter-blog-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-94548</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaiks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Do I care if the Fish&#039;n&#039;Chip shop I buy from had a larger net or gross profit than the other one down the road? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not really.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I care if the Fish&#8217;n'Chip shop I buy from had a larger net or gross profit than the other one down the road? </p>

<p>Not really.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dev</title>
		<link>http://www.tipb.com/2009/11/16/iphone-profitable-nokia-handsets-quarter-blog-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-94547</link>
		<dc:creator>dev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@mystic&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When you take shots, at least do 30 seconds of legwork.  Definition #2 on http://tinyurl.com/m3cu3e&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;attacking an opponent&#039;s character rather than answering his argument.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Fits you to a tee.  Handy in the future,  handy now.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, a simple way to avoid an ad hominem accusation is to discuss &lt;em&gt;why&lt;/em&gt; you think Wilcox&#039;s arguments are bunk, or what exactly about post #2, ending in&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;With the momentum Apple has, and the gift cachet of many of its products coming into the holiday season, the results may differ next quarter&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;was so patently anti-Apple.  &lt;em&gt;That&lt;/em&gt; would be engaging in a polite disagreement/discussion, like I have with @ArseneKarl here or @Matthew on earlier threads, and others.  Care to start over on any of those points?  I&#039;ll gladly discus any of the substance of Rene&#039;s linked articles, or post #2 where I started.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Otherwise, sorry, but when every single one of your posts fails to address a single point of content, but shouts down people as &quot;haters&quot; who need to &quot;get a life&quot;, yes, all you have are ad hominem bleatings.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mystic</p>

<p>When you take shots, at least do 30 seconds of legwork.  Definition #2 on <a href="http://tinyurl.com/m3cu3e" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/m3cu3e</a></p>

<p>&#8220;attacking an opponent&#8217;s character rather than answering his argument.&#8221;</p>

<p>Fits you to a tee.  Handy in the future,  handy now.</p>

<p>Now, a simple way to avoid an ad hominem accusation is to discuss <em>why</em> you think Wilcox&#8217;s arguments are bunk, or what exactly about post #2, ending in</p>

<p>&#8220;With the momentum Apple has, and the gift cachet of many of its products coming into the holiday season, the results may differ next quarter&#8221;</p>

<p>was so patently anti-Apple.  <em>That</em> would be engaging in a polite disagreement/discussion, like I have with @ArseneKarl here or @Matthew on earlier threads, and others.  Care to start over on any of those points?  I&#8217;ll gladly discus any of the substance of Rene&#8217;s linked articles, or post #2 where I started.</p>

<p>Otherwise, sorry, but when every single one of your posts fails to address a single point of content, but shouts down people as &#8220;haters&#8221; who need to &#8220;get a life&#8221;, yes, all you have are ad hominem bleatings.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mystic</title>
		<link>http://www.tipb.com/2009/11/16/iphone-profitable-nokia-handsets-quarter-blog-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-94543</link>
		<dc:creator>mystic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Dev&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve made the point I wanted to make, thanks. It was about you and all the other tiresome iPhone bashers like you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh, and you might want to check on the PRECISE meaning of &quot;ad hominem&quot;. You seem to be very fond of it, so it could come in handy in future.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I&#8217;ve made the point I wanted to make, thanks. It was about you and all the other tiresome iPhone bashers like you.</p>

<p>Oh, and you might want to check on the PRECISE meaning of &#8220;ad hominem&#8221;. You seem to be very fond of it, so it could come in handy in future.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dev</title>
		<link>http://www.tipb.com/2009/11/16/iphone-profitable-nokia-handsets-quarter-blog-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-94539</link>
		<dc:creator>dev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ArseneKarl -- sorry for mispelling your handle in #17 -- was posting from my iPhone and did not scroll up to double check before hitting submit  No offense intended.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@mystic&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;4 posts, 4 ad hominem attacks on 3 posters, and nothing at all to say about either of the articles Rene linked, or any content from commenters.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks again for proving my point.  Next time, you might find it rewarding to make just one of your own.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ArseneKarl &#8212; sorry for mispelling your handle in #17 &#8212; was posting from my iPhone and did not scroll up to double check before hitting submit  No offense intended.</p>

<p>@mystic</p>

<p>4 posts, 4 ad hominem attacks on 3 posters, and nothing at all to say about either of the articles Rene linked, or any content from commenters.</p>

<p>Thanks again for proving my point.  Next time, you might find it rewarding to make just one of your own.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mystic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mystic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Dev&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It boggles MY mind that you have nothing better to do than hang out on this forum and peddle anti-Apple, anti-iPhone propaganda day in and day out - ad nauseum. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Get a life.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dev</p>

<p>It boggles MY mind that you have nothing better to do than hang out on this forum and peddle anti-Apple, anti-iPhone propaganda day in and day out &#8211; ad nauseum. </p>

<p>Get a life.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ArseneKarl&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is amazing that even a single person still listens to Enderle after his &quot;Ferarri branded laptop&quot; piece :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ArseneKarl</p>

<p>It is amazing that even a single person still listens to Enderle after his &#8220;Ferarri branded laptop&#8221; piece <img src='http://www.tipb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@arsenekarl&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;GAAP or not, Nokia does not report deferred income, therefore the most fair apples to apples comparison is (snicker) to use Apple&#039;s numbers that follow those same rules.  As fir accounting rules changes next year, ok, great for Apple, and we can discuss those rules next year. For Pete&#039;s sake, I even predicted Apple would &quot;win&quot; even if the rules remain unchanged as early as next quarter.  It boggles the mind people are getting so worked up over a completely meaningless comparison.   &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@mystic&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;if you want to have a reasonable discussion, actually, I dunno, discuss the points in question, like arsenkarl.  Or just lead with irrelevant ad hominem attacks without any underlying thought or consideration, as you typically do.  Just don&#039;t be surprised when the grown ups return in kind and tell you to return to your playpen.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@arsenekarl</p>

<p>GAAP or not, Nokia does not report deferred income, therefore the most fair apples to apples comparison is (snicker) to use Apple&#8217;s numbers that follow those same rules.  As fir accounting rules changes next year, ok, great for Apple, and we can discuss those rules next year. For Pete&#8217;s sake, I even predicted Apple would &#8220;win&#8221; even if the rules remain unchanged as early as next quarter.  It boggles the mind people are getting so worked up over a completely meaningless comparison.   </p>

<p>@mystic</p>

<p>if you want to have a reasonable discussion, actually, I dunno, discuss the points in question, like arsenkarl.  Or just lead with irrelevant ad hominem attacks without any underlying thought or consideration, as you typically do.  Just don&#8217;t be surprised when the grown ups return in kind and tell you to return to your playpen.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mystic</title>
		<link>http://www.tipb.com/2009/11/16/iphone-profitable-nokia-handsets-quarter-blog-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-94489</link>
		<dc:creator>Mystic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Dev&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wilcox was wrong, and your attempts to justify his &quot;reasoning&quot; are just as lame.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@iDavey&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was wrong about your post, but not about you. Apologies for the former, not for the latter.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dev</p>

<p>Wilcox was wrong, and your attempts to justify his &#8220;reasoning&#8221; are just as lame.</p>

<p>@iDavey</p>

<p>I was wrong about your post, but not about you. Apologies for the former, not for the latter.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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