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	<title>Comments on: Dear Apple: How Will You Handle Death-By-Push-Notification?</title>
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		<title>By: Mr. Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.tipb.com/2009/03/25/dear-apple-handle-deathbypushnotification/comment-page-1/#comment-38031</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 07:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;what if there was a glowing circle that pulsed every time that you got a notification. . . and you made an arc from the top right to the bottom right of the screen to &quot;drag&quot; the notifications out of the glowing thing and view them in a top to bottom ddr style cover flow. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;that or have the menu bar pulse and flick from the top of the screen to the bottom to make what ever is on the screen go away and you get a list&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i personally think the first would be more elegant, but hey. . .  the later seems to work well for android.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what if there was a glowing circle that pulsed every time that you got a notification. . . and you made an arc from the top right to the bottom right of the screen to &#8220;drag&#8221; the notifications out of the glowing thing and view them in a top to bottom ddr style cover flow. </p>

<p>that or have the menu bar pulse and flick from the top of the screen to the bottom to make what ever is on the screen go away and you get a list</p>

<p>i personally think the first would be more elegant, but hey. . .  the later seems to work well for android.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: striatic</title>
		<link>http://www.tipb.com/2009/03/25/dear-apple-handle-deathbypushnotification/comment-page-1/#comment-37892</link>
		<dc:creator>striatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i think they just need to add the dialog box itself.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;so you get 10 messages all at once, the dialog would say:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;“message” [close] [action] 10 others [close all]&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;providing you an option to quickly clear the deck that would work in all apps.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;then you would have a “notification app”, which might not actually be an “app”, but a “page” to the left of spotlight or some other UI gimmick. this “app” would list all your notifications in sequence, with some kind of tab to view to view only “unread notifications” that had been missed by tapping “close all”.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;or maybe apple just forces people to tap “close” ten times, and then unsubscribe from some services.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the problem might not be the UI, but that people are oversubscribed to too many alerts. so many that UI improvements would only help people ignore them to the point that they become less and less useful.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think they just need to add the dialog box itself.</p>

<p>so you get 10 messages all at once, the dialog would say:</p>

<p>“message” [close] [action] 10 others [close all]</p>

<p>providing you an option to quickly clear the deck that would work in all apps.</p>

<p>then you would have a “notification app”, which might not actually be an “app”, but a “page” to the left of spotlight or some other UI gimmick. this “app” would list all your notifications in sequence, with some kind of tab to view to view only “unread notifications” that had been missed by tapping “close all”.</p>

<p>or maybe apple just forces people to tap “close” ten times, and then unsubscribe from some services.</p>

<p>the problem might not be the UI, but that people are oversubscribed to too many alerts. so many that UI improvements would only help people ignore them to the point that they become less and less useful.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.tipb.com/2009/03/25/dear-apple-handle-deathbypushnotification/comment-page-1/#comment-37732</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well...what they should do is like every 5-15 minutes (idk but variable time) they should bring a popup having a full list of the notifications from the last notifications and you can control which ones you want to see immediately like SMS IM etc.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230;what they should do is like every 5-15 minutes (idk but variable time) they should bring a popup having a full list of the notifications from the last notifications and you can control which ones you want to see immediately like SMS IM etc.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A simple vibrate and badge (a la mail) plus a status bar notification would be sufficient enough for me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Honestly the status bar notification is the only reason I opted to jailbreak.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A simple vibrate and badge (a la mail) plus a status bar notification would be sufficient enough for me.</p>

<p>Honestly the status bar notification is the only reason I opted to jailbreak.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mike M</title>
		<link>http://www.tipb.com/2009/03/25/dear-apple-handle-deathbypushnotification/comment-page-1/#comment-37660</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@iDutch (and others) while I can see why those notifications would be annoying while in a call, but sometimes it&#039;s welcome. Say I send a text to friends A &amp; B to invite them to dinner or something. Then friend A calls and asks if friend B replied yet, it would be nice to not have to hang up to get that message. Stupid example, but you see where I&#039;m going with it. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Back to my suggestion a few posts ago, tapping on the top bar while in a call could open up that messages/settings list (since the top bar goes back to the call from anywhere else, again I&#039;d rather have a triple click). Then it could just show me a badge in the top bar for new messages, eliminating the popup but I can still pull the phone away from my ear and look at it. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The settngs/messages page can also be 2 screens. One for settings, the other for new messages with the apps with new messages tiled like any other home screen. You could even rearrange and delete them (delete would ignore all new messages). Maybe a setting for which page opens up by default. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another idea for the lock screen, if apple insists on keeping it clean, is to have a second half-sized slider pop up off the existing one that slides to the left instead of the right. It can have the different colored badges, mentioned in a previous post, right on the slider. Green for SMS, blue for mail, red for apps. Sliding this slider to the left opens the settings/messages page, defaulting to the messages page. Even better, treat SMS the same as it does now and the new messages page is only for apps (and maybe mail, but that&#039;s usually docked anyway. Although it&#039;d be nice to finally have some sort of notification for it)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@iDutch (and others) while I can see why those notifications would be annoying while in a call, but sometimes it&#8217;s welcome. Say I send a text to friends A &amp; B to invite them to dinner or something. Then friend A calls and asks if friend B replied yet, it would be nice to not have to hang up to get that message. Stupid example, but you see where I&#8217;m going with it. </p>

<p>Back to my suggestion a few posts ago, tapping on the top bar while in a call could open up that messages/settings list (since the top bar goes back to the call from anywhere else, again I&#8217;d rather have a triple click). Then it could just show me a badge in the top bar for new messages, eliminating the popup but I can still pull the phone away from my ear and look at it. </p>

<p>The settngs/messages page can also be 2 screens. One for settings, the other for new messages with the apps with new messages tiled like any other home screen. You could even rearrange and delete them (delete would ignore all new messages). Maybe a setting for which page opens up by default. </p>

<p>Another idea for the lock screen, if apple insists on keeping it clean, is to have a second half-sized slider pop up off the existing one that slides to the left instead of the right. It can have the different colored badges, mentioned in a previous post, right on the slider. Green for SMS, blue for mail, red for apps. Sliding this slider to the left opens the settings/messages page, defaulting to the messages page. Even better, treat SMS the same as it does now and the new messages page is only for apps (and maybe mail, but that&#8217;s usually docked anyway. Although it&#8217;d be nice to finally have some sort of notification for it)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: iDutch</title>
		<link>http://www.tipb.com/2009/03/25/dear-apple-handle-deathbypushnotification/comment-page-1/#comment-37618</link>
		<dc:creator>iDutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How about doing it really easy. When you are in a call every notification is blocked, and the second you tap end call/your call is ended, the phone would notify you with all those pop-ups, badges or sounds,  or with just one vibration that let&#039;s you know that you got a message so go look for it on whichever page it is.
And to be honest i really doubt Apple hasn&#039;t thought/ isn&#039;t thinking about this &quot;issue&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about doing it really easy. When you are in a call every notification is blocked, and the second you tap end call/your call is ended, the phone would notify you with all those pop-ups, badges or sounds,  or with just one vibration that let&#8217;s you know that you got a message so go look for it on whichever page it is.
And to be honest i really doubt Apple hasn&#8217;t thought/ isn&#8217;t thinking about this &#8220;issue&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Omari James</title>
		<link>http://www.tipb.com/2009/03/25/dear-apple-handle-deathbypushnotification/comment-page-1/#comment-37612</link>
		<dc:creator>Omari James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I requested apple to add another little icon which will show a number. It would be on the top bar where the time is and will show the amount of messages I have. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Green for Messages
Blue for e-mails.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe they should do that for PNS. 
They might not the numbered icons for Mess. and E-mails but they should do that for PNS definitely.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I requested apple to add another little icon which will show a number. It would be on the top bar where the time is and will show the amount of messages I have. </p>

<p>Green for Messages
Blue for e-mails.</p>

<p>Maybe they should do that for PNS. 
They might not the numbered icons for Mess. and E-mails but they should do that for PNS definitely.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mike M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sure, you could just set it to notify you by badge instead of a popup. But what happens when your apps are spread out over 9 pages (or 8 with the new spotlight search)?  I don&#039;t want to have to keep looking through all my homescreens to see what&#039;s new, or to find out why my phone vibrated this time. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A nice list on the lock screen would be nice. For example, it could say &quot;Twitterific 6 new&quot;, &quot;Mail 3 new&quot;, etc. Or even just duplicate the icon with badge and organize all the ones with new messages nicely on the lock screen. They could put a dimmed-out badge on the left side for ones that are older than a specified amount of time (or ignored by unlocking and not checking them) so you can see what&#039;s new since the last time you checked. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This could also be put at the bottom of the SBSettings-ish screen everyone wants (pleeeease, Apple?). It would make sense for that to be either a triple click of the home button or a tap on the top bar from any home page. I would prefer a triple click just so I can change settings while in an app, but I&#039;d be ecstatic just to get the feature that I&#039;d be mostly happy anyway. Mostly.  (south park reference, anyone?)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, you could just set it to notify you by badge instead of a popup. But what happens when your apps are spread out over 9 pages (or 8 with the new spotlight search)?  I don&#8217;t want to have to keep looking through all my homescreens to see what&#8217;s new, or to find out why my phone vibrated this time. </p>

<p>A nice list on the lock screen would be nice. For example, it could say &#8220;Twitterific 6 new&#8221;, &#8220;Mail 3 new&#8221;, etc. Or even just duplicate the icon with badge and organize all the ones with new messages nicely on the lock screen. They could put a dimmed-out badge on the left side for ones that are older than a specified amount of time (or ignored by unlocking and not checking them) so you can see what&#8217;s new since the last time you checked. </p>

<p>This could also be put at the bottom of the SBSettings-ish screen everyone wants (pleeeease, Apple?). It would make sense for that to be either a triple click of the home button or a tap on the top bar from any home page. I would prefer a triple click just so I can change settings while in an app, but I&#8217;d be ecstatic just to get the feature that I&#8217;d be mostly happy anyway. Mostly.  (south park reference, anyone?)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MPR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MPR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess it really depends if you&#039;re a type A or type B personality. If someone has something really really important to tell you ... they&#039;ll find a way. For everything else there is RSS.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I miss Monica&#039;s message to get the milk on my way home and that causes an argument between Monica and me ... then we have bigger problems in our relationship than my stupid iPhone. Steve Jobs sets an example by openly managing the top line rather than the bottom line (say, holding managers accountable instead of operators or contractors or anyone else &quot;below the line&quot;), and that can translate quite well to family life. Gadgets are the bottom line, not the top, in my opinion.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It doesn&#039;t have to be goodbye blue sky.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it really depends if you&#8217;re a type A or type B personality. If someone has something really really important to tell you &#8230; they&#8217;ll find a way. For everything else there is RSS.</p>

<p>If I miss Monica&#8217;s message to get the milk on my way home and that causes an argument between Monica and me &#8230; then we have bigger problems in our relationship than my stupid iPhone. Steve Jobs sets an example by openly managing the top line rather than the bottom line (say, holding managers accountable instead of operators or contractors or anyone else &#8220;below the line&#8221;), and that can translate quite well to family life. Gadgets are the bottom line, not the top, in my opinion.</p>

<p>It doesn&#8217;t have to be goodbye blue sky.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I also agree this will be a big problem..  I really hope something like IntelliScreen will be in 3.0 eventually, so that notifications can be easily browsed from the lock screen, but a better in-app solution would be useful.. I &lt;em&gt;hate&lt;/em&gt; having to exit an app to just reply to a txt with &quot;K&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree this will be a big problem..  I really hope something like IntelliScreen will be in 3.0 eventually, so that notifications can be easily browsed from the lock screen, but a better in-app solution would be useful.. I <em>hate</em> having to exit an app to just reply to a txt with &#8220;K&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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