Comments on: Updated Twice: Adobe CEO Speaks! Mobile Flash Running on iPhone Emulation

By: Candice

Candice — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:32:25 +0000

I thought the post made some good points on screen scrapers, For simple stuff i use python to screen scrape, but for larger projects i used extractingdata.com screen scraper software which worked great, they build custom screen scrapers and data extracting programs

By: Gregus Kahsn

Gregus Kahsn — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:22:37 +0000

Flash apps rock. Lot of great stuff on the web that doesnt require a coding nightmare and spending all night figuring out which line of code is missing.

By: El Fido

El Fido — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:14:30 +0000

Clearly you do need flash in some websites. No other format comes close to its usability in video or audio, and page design integration.

By: Dyvim

Dyvim — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:07:49 +0000

@Rene, Yeah I understand that Apple could update Safari to open Flash links in a separate Flash Player, but do you really think that’s likely considering that Apple hasn’t even accepted Adobe into their dev program and that Apple is simultaneously pushing for the acceptance of open-standard alternatives to Flash? I don’t.

By: thekevinmonster

thekevinmonster — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:31:14 +0000

People keep saying that you 'need' Flash to have the real internet. That's like saying you need the "blink" tag just because everyone uses it.

Flash became a big force on the internet because it lets you design a website in ways HTML doesn't easily. It lets you make it flashy. People like flashy. If they didn't like flashy, we'd have phones that look like the HP 620LX from yesteryear. (That's not a phone, and it's not pretty either.)

Flash performs poorly on desktop computers with 2-core processors and massive GPUs. Why would it be so wonderful and amazing on a 600-odd MHz ARM and a little mobile PowerVR GPU? How would that enormous super awesome animated gee whiz band website display on a 320x480 screen?

I understand that Flash is really, really popular as a way to make 'rich' websites, except that I've never seen a single post on any geek site on the internet going "gosh golly, this particular Flash site is so well designed and accessible and allows me to re-style the content easily into my screen scraper for my RSS reader!" or whatever. Everything I see is, "FLASH SUX!" and then "OMFG WE NEED FLASH ON THE IPHONE OR ITS NOT REAL!"

Make up your mind.

By: Rene Ritchie

Rene Ritchie — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:42:27 +0000

@Dyvim,

See the update with the link to Gruber's post, which reminded me that no video content plays inline in MobileSafari, so even if there was a Flash plugin, it would likely just pop up the "play" button and launch a min-player the way QuickTime does now for audio and H.264 web content.

@iamse7ev,

I don't think its a 3G thing, I think its a CPU and rendering engine thing.

By: Dyvim

Dyvim — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:51:16 +0000

What cracks me up is Apple obviously isn’t helping them out at all. Emulator? That means they’re not part of any beta program to allow them to test their software on actual phones. So my take is that Apple has zero interest in releasing Flash for the iPhone. And so what if Adobe does release a stand-alone Flash Player app (if Apple even approves it for distribution through the App Store)? That’s not going to change anyone’s browsing experience in Mobile Safari.

By: Csabi

Csabi — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:26:31 +0000

Seriously… do we really need flash on our mobile devices? For what? more ads? more bogus plug-ins? more annoying animations? more resources lost to the bugs and memory leaks? No thanks!

By: Davi

Davi — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:35:54 +0000

WOW flash on the iphone would be sweet. I cant wait for this phone to come out!

By: iamse7en

iamse7en — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:44:33 +0000

I'd really like to see flash on the iPhone, more so b/c of the new 3G network.

I can't think of how many times I was reading my feeds via Newsgator iPhone, and I had to add posts to clippings because I couldn't view the short video that was posted. Transmorgifying it isn't enough for me. Please!